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Interview Portuguese Spanish    
Year 6 - N° 293 – January 6, 2013
MARCUS VINICIUS DE AZEVEDO BRAGA
acervobraga@gmail.com
Brasília, DF (Brasil)
 
Translation
Leonardo Rocha - l.rocha1989@gmail.com


Ivomar Schüler da Costa:

“If God gave us intelligence,
it is for us to use it”

The Spiritist researcher from Brazil’s southern Rio Grande do Sul
state says we need to change the way Spiritist Centres
are managed and structured

Ivomar Costa (photo), who lives in the city of Pelotas, is a business manager and consultant. He found Spiritism when he was 12. In this interview, he shares his views on the management of Spiritist Groups, based on his experience in business and Spiritism: 
 

First tell us about how you became a Spiritist. 

I found Spiritism when I was 12 years’ old. I took part in many activities in Spiritist Centres, but I would say that most of my knowledge of the Teachings came from my own reading. From the moment I met Spiritism, I made a concerted effort to learn about it. I joined Spiritist Centres in Rio de Janeiro and Curitiba in the 1980’s, when I lived in those cities. And when I moved to Pelotas, I joined the local Spiritist Movement. I am now in the Board of Directors of the Spiritist Centre Fé, Esperança e Caridade (Faith, Hope and Charity).  

Why are you concerned about the management of Spiritist Centres?

From my early experience in Pelotas, I realised that most directors of Spiritist Groups shared the misguided view that good will would be enough to manage well a Spiritist Centre. I began to study the subject, as I had always been interested in Management. I created a blog, http://centroemovimento.blogspot.com.br, where I elaborate on these issues.

Do you think there is any benefit in those in charge of Spiritist Centres to stay for so long in their posts? 

I do not think it is necessary for the directors of Spiritist Centres or those in local and national federations to remain in their posts for too long. The main problem is that, with time, their performance declines and we miss the opportunity to form new leaderships. Everyone’s creativity declines as time goes on, situations change and we tend to repeat the same old solutions to new problems. Spiritist managers and directors should do their job well, find solutions for the particular issues they were commissioned to address and pass the job to someone else when their term ends.  

Could we learn management practice from the teachings of Allan Kardec? 

The examples of Kardec as a manager, an administrator, were visionary and revolutionary. We still need to learn a lot from him on management. We should not need to look outside Spiritism to find the solutions to our problems. For instance: authoritarian practices are in complete opposition to the principles of Spiritism. A Spiritist Groups that does not allow open and honest debate of all problems concerning their members, that does not allow their directors to alternate in power is in breach of the principles of Spiritism.  

Is there a risk of factions being created within the Movement if you allow free elections for managing positions in Spiritist Groups? 

What leads to the creation of factions in Spiritist organisms is excessive pride, the lack of open dialogue, of clear rules on governance and the length of mandates. It is only natural and healthy that we have different groups with different views within an organisation, provided we keep the dialogue in a good, positive level.  

Are we to expect guidance from the Spirits on organisational matters? 

Kardec made it very clear in The Mediums’ Book  and Posthumous Works. Good intentioned Spirits do not intervene in the resolution of administrative problems in Spiritist Groups. This is our responsibility, not theirs. They guide us through intuition, hinting at the paths to follow. If you have a message from a Spirit with clear instructions on what to do on such a matter, rest assured that that is not an enlightened Spirit. 

What about the idea of abolishing volunteer work and employing professionals to work in Spiritist Centres? 

I believe that is a misconception, as this proposal goes against the true goals of Spiritist organisations. That would bring about the capitulation of spiritual, idealistic principles in favour of materialistic, short-term values. In the history of management we have two main approaches: one that prioritises efficiency and productivity and another one that puts the human being at the centre. It is easy to see which one is in harmony with Spiritism. When we talk about efficiency, we should take into account the degree of satisfaction of people at work. That is a modern concept. Volunteers have the opportunity to employ their energy to help other people. You can have a small number of professional staff, to perform tasks that the volunteers are not capable of, but that must be a small group in the Spiritist Group. 

Do you see any problems in making use of business practices in the management of Spiritist organisations? 

I believe it is a mistake to adopt such practices without any reservations. I dare say that many mistakes, from a Spiritist perspective, have been made in Brazil. Private companies are looking for profit, and human beings are not their main priority. Spiritist Centres must prioritise the transcendental, immortal aspects of people. They may learn a few techniques and practices, but the management practices have to be different. 

Is fund raising a major problem? 

Transparency is paramount in fund raising. Spiritist Groups must prioritise all activities that get their members involved. I do not agree with asking for donations from private companies or making collections of food at supermarkets. Fine if there is no other way, but then you need to be very transparent and make a record of exactly how much was raised. Those figures need to be assessed by the board of directors.  

How about Spiritist Groups receiving public funds? 

I have seen cases of presidents of Spiritist Centres being forced to sign partnerships with the government to keep their organisation working. That is not ideal, probably the result of insufficient planning, but a better option than asking for donations from the private sector. I believe it is important for the Spiritist Movement to remain independent from the State. It must fight for its emancipation, setting the example for the emancipation of society. Spiritism takes a libertarian position towards the State. It admits it is necessary, but does not recommend becoming dependent of it. We need to evolve from a model from the XX Century to a XXI Century model. We need to form new leaders, people from different professional areas. And we need to develop sustainable economic systems, aiming at the survival and growth of our institutions. We need to think, but think different. We must put into practice the principles of Spiritism with creativity. As Kardec used to say, if God gave us intelligence, it is for us to use it.

 

 

 

 


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