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Interview Portuguese Spanish    
Year 3 - N° 150 – March 21, 2010
ORSON PETER CARRARA
orsonpeter@yahoo.com.br
Matão, São Paulo (Brasil)
Translation
Carolina von Scharten -carolinavonscharten@yahoo.com

Iliseu Garcia Ramirez: 

“The Systematic Study of the Spiritist Doctrine (ESDE) waits
for us” 

Our colleague who lives in João Pessoa, Paraíba, and here talks about his experience with the Systematic Study of the Spiritist Doctrine (ESDE). He here talks about the benefits
of this programme
 

 

Iliseu Garcia Ramirez (picture) has been spiritist since he was 19 years old. He is from São Paulo-SP but lives in João Pessoa, capital of Paraíba, for the last 13 years. Ramirez leads the Systematic Study of the Spiritist Doctrine (ESDE). He has a vast experience applying it at the Spiritist Federation of Paraíba (FEPB). He graduated in Management and now works in the same field. In the present interview, you will be able to see that his answers show his enthusiasm for the study of the Spiritist Doctrine. 

O Consolador: How many groups are

now doing the Systematic Study of the Spiritist Doctrine (ESDE), which is coordinated by the Spiritist Federation of Paraíba (FEPB)? 

We have two groups currently with the Systematic Study of the Spiritist Doctrine (ESDE). We are expecting to start another group later on this year. 

O Consolador: How many people are registered for these studies? 

Unfortunately, our numbers are out of date. In 2007, we saw that out of 107 institutions in our State, only 21 offered the Systematic Study of the Spiritist Doctrine (ESDE). There are now 127 spiritist centres in Paraíba. We will be able to get new figures in April, but we believe our State has a higher percentage of centres offering these studies in comparison with the rest of the country. One of the biggest challenges we face is the resistance we see from leaders and workers within the spiritist movement. 

O Consolador: Can you see some results from the implementation of the Systematic Study of the Spiritist Doctrine (ESDE)?

Yes, we can. There are many benefits not just to the individual, but also to the spiritist centre and to the society. The initial response has been an increase in the interest for research and study of the Doctrine. It could be compared to someone who was lost but has now found the right path and decides to follow it. 

O Consolador: What are the long term benefits? 

The long term benefits are clarity on the Doctrine principles, commitment, and increase in the centres’ activities, higher activity and interaction within the spiritist movement, better relationship between the existing and new members of the centres, inner reformation, more inner awareness, rational faith, and a better view of life in general, and so on. 

O Consolador: Can you see benefits in your State, in relation to this new implementation? 

Yes, we can see it. The spiritist movement here is very mature, strong and well directed. There are many challenges, but we are conscious of the need to study and practice the teachings we are learning from the Doctrine. 

O Consolador: Are there any interesting experiences you would like to share with us? 

Yes, there are several interesting ones. At the spiritist centre O Consolador, a 50 year old lady who could barely read completed the Systematic Study of the Spiritist Doctrine (ESDE) last year. She gave us an example of persistence and enthusiasm to learn and work for the Spiritist Doctrine. Last August we had a couple who after years of study and dedication to the Spiritist Doctrine decided to start from scratch and join a group to study the ESDE.  

In December we had a student on our Thursday evening classes who was working as a nurse. He started live his professional life in a more calm way, due to the things he learned at the course. He is now able to understand what goes on with his incarnate and disincarnate brothers. There are many brothers who start studying the Spiritist Doctrine and change their way of living. They start to understand the real truth.   

O Consolador: What is the biggest benefit of ESDE, in your opinion?

The Systematic Study of the Spiritist Doctrine (ESDE) waits for us all. It will be available for everyone who decides to wake up for the real life values.  

O Consolador: Is there anything else you would like to add to this interview? 

Yes, there is. I would like to thank the opportunity to talk a bit about the work of the Spiritist Federation of Paraíba (FEPB), lead by Dr. José Raimundo de Lima. I would also like to thank Kalina, who directs the Spiritist Education for Children Department (DEC), for her help with this interview. 

O Consolador: Can you please give us your final words? 

I would suggest to all spiritists to implement these studies at the spiritist centres. The Systematic Study of the Spiritist Doctrine (ESDE), the Study of the Gospel According to Spiritism (ESE) and the in-depth study of the Spiritist Doctrine (EADE) should be present at the groups.

 
 


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